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Share / Recommend - Comment - Print - Wednesday, Mar 15 2006, 2:31AM

Apologies to the many New Yorkers who have written about meeting up. There has been some uncertainty about my flight plans -- now mostly resolved.

I get into JFK Airport today at 3:30 pm and am then heading into Manhattan to meet Josh Marshall. I have no idea how long customs, travel to the city, etc. will take -- but I'll post a place I can meet folks this evening in the Chelsea/Soho area. Wish I could give more advance notice, but I just can't this time around.

For readers and bloggers in Tulsa, I arrive tomorrow afternoon and am speaking at dinner for the Tulsa Committee on Foreign Relations. The organizer of the dinner for the members only organization is Bob Donaldson, Trustees Professor of Political Science, and one of the nation's leading experts on Russia at the University of Tulsa.

I don't know whether members of the public can pay for the dinner and attend -- but I have no problem with it if the Tulsa Committee on Foreign Relations does not. Otherwise, those interested in grabbing a cappuccino in Tulsa should just call me at the Doubletree Downtown Tulsa Hotel.

More soon. I've got much to report regarding this Israel trip.

-- Steve Clemons

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Posted by Robert Morrow, Mar 15 2006, 11:23AM - Link

Richard Armitage was the likely leak of Valerie Plame's identity, not that she was the "secret" anyway.
So everyone together let's get all worked up in a big stew on how the UN lovers and muli-lateralists are selling out America by disclosing our most precious, closely guarded national security secrets.
5 alarm fire truck alert: all liberals to the Senate floor and bust a gut over this.

Posted by steambomb, Mar 15 2006, 1:25PM - Link

It appears to be a new work day for the "cover up kid" aka Pat Roberts.

"Over the next several weeks, the committee's members will work with staff to write the final products," Roberts said in a statement. "This schedule provides a reasonable time frame for member input as we complete the inquiry."

However if you read the rest of this AP article you might surmise that Roberts is once again stonewalling the Democrats effort to get to the bottom of what really happened with intelligence pertaining to Iraq in the runup to the war.

Posted by ManagedChaos, Mar 15 2006, 2:34PM - Link

Steve, I look forward to meeting with you and listening to what you have to say if you have time. I work down by Wall St and live in midtown, so I'm just a subway or two away. I'm also a fan of TPM so that would be a bonus to be able to meet Josh.

Posted by erichwwk, Mar 15 2006, 2:47PM - Link

Mr. Morrow:

I suggest you load you brain before shooting off your mouth. Secrecy is the CAUSE , not the cure, for America's security problems. If you're unwilling to go back to NCS68 at least go back to the Committee for Present Danger and Team B.

Posted by erichwwk, Mar 15 2006, 3:12PM - Link

Sorry- my own brain/fingers were not fully functiuonal.

The originating document was likely NSC68 (National Security Council Report 68) declassified in 1977, after Wohlstetter, Rumsfeld, Cheney, GHBush, Perle,Wolfowitz et al revived the Coalition for the Present Danger and IN SECRET were able to bullshit Americans under our only appointed president (Ford) that the Soviets could and would kill us all unless we killed them first.

While secrecy may play a temporary strategic purpose, as an overall policy secrecy is the father of tyranny and war profiteering and useful only to scare people in accepting tyranny over freedom and reason. Unless we are able to introduce openess and transparency to US foreign and military policy, we are doomed to be the major terrorist force (with Israel and UK) in the world today.

It is no coincidence that Douglas Feith (OSP) was also an aide (w/ Wolfowitz and Perle, an English Major) to Scoop Jackson, and under cover of secrecy able to spin the scientist and engineers
under the psychologist fantacizing that all foreigners are evil (Richard Pipes). What is needed is objective analysis, subject to peer review, done in an open and transparent fashion. SECRECY is for those whose ideas cannot stand the scrutiny of reality, and wish to dominate others by fear.

Posted by SusanJ, Mar 15 2006, 5:01PM - Link

Re the 'deal' to capture/release prisoners to Israel, one must put aside that the prisoners that Israel most wants will, in all likelyhood, be tortured. Sooo, we are O.K. with this? And what happens to all those prisoners who Israel is not interested in? Do they get to go back to Palestine or do they stay locked up in Israeli jails?

Posted by Steve Clemons, Mar 15 2006, 7:21PM - Link

Dear Managed Chaos: My flight got in late -- and regrettably, I've just arrived in Manhattan at about 7:20 p.m. I will be back in NY in a week and a half, and with your indulgence and patience, let's meet then when I can be more relaxed and less bleary eyed. I have to do a radio show tonight -- and need to sleep....

I really apologize and thought I'd be here by at least 5 pm, but the border officials and bag handlers just wouldn't have that.

I'll be in touch,

Steve Clemons

Posted by ManagedChaos, Mar 15 2006, 8:04PM - Link

No problem Steve...I'm not going anywhere, unless Homeland Security has some other ideas for me. Enjoy your time in NYC.

Posted by Charlie Robb, Mar 16 2006, 10:55PM - Link

As the loyal and loving son of two alumni, it's Tulsa University ("TU"), not University of Tulsa.

Posted by Steve Clemons, Mar 19 2006, 1:09PM - Link

Charlie -- Thanks for the note, but on the name of the University, I just went with what the University calls itself on its website:

http://www.utulsa.edu/

Check it out.

All the best,

Steve

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