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Richardson Voted For (and Against) "Don't Ask, Don't Tell"

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In my debate commentary below, I could not recall a vote in the Senate or House regarding Bill Clinton's policy of "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." I doubted there had been one since I thought that the measure had been enacted through Executive Order.

It turns out there was such a vote codifying the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" order in the House of Representatives just as Bill Richardson stated.

However, he stated in the debate that he voted against "Don't Ask, Don't Tell." Not so say the record keepers.

He voted for the provision which passed 301-143.

There are just a lot of votes to remember I guess. Tough to remember them all.

-- Steve Clemons

UPDATE: Steve Ralls of Service Members' Legal Defense Fund has an excellent update on the confusion over Richardson's votes on "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". I think that Ralls removes any doubt about Bill Richardson's commitment to a policy better and different than the failed policy that the Department of Defense is now using.

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Posted by PissedOffAmerican, Jun 04 2007, 10:44AM - Link

Why not? Most of us, including myself, haven't a clue how candidates have voted on many issues. So hey, just lie about your vote if you think it will put you on the throne.

I see the dems are porking-out, despite their promises to clean up the process.

Nothing in the news about Rice flipping the bird to Congress by ignoring their subpoena.

15 dead soldiers in Iraq yesterday.

Blood cancers showing up in the 9/11 first responders. Hey, heres a novel idea, lets elect Rudy president.

Got a speeding ticket last week. I'll probably jump through the hoops, do traffic school, pay the fine. Its expensive disobeying the law. Next time, maybe I'll just lie a nation to war, kill a few hundred thousand people, out a CIA agent, spy on my nieghbor, ignore a subpoena or two, and sodomize a few Muslims. If I'm gonna break the law, I might as well do something I can get away with.

Stopped for a quick couple of Sausage McMuffins with no egg yesterday at the drive thru. Opened the bag on the freeway, had two biscuits with canadian bacon and egg in the bag. Shoulda ordered in Spanish.

Oh well. I'm off to Home Depot to buy some green studs that already have black mold growing on them. What the hell, you can't see the stuff after the sheet rock is up anyway, right?

God bless America, George Bush, and Vaseline.

Posted by David N, Jun 04 2007, 12:30PM - Link

Someone should have attacked the very premise of this question.

Was doing something that was resisted at the time, was the best you could get in place, and made progress to where we should be, a "mistake"?

Is everything everyone does, everywhere, at every time, on every issue, going to be judged either "right" or "wrong"?

Is a vote to end the war voting "against the troops"?

IS a vote against a free givaway to Halliburton a vote "against the troops"?

Is a vote against ending civil service protection to federal employees a vote "for America's enemies"?

Is everything in this campaign going to be judged according to standards establish by the RNC corporate shill spin doctors?

This is part of what you were talking about, Steve, in terms of alternatives to "tough" vs. "wimp" as a measure of national security. There was some of that during this "debate" when candidates talked about how international cooperation rather than intimidation makes us more secure, but it didn't go far enough. There was some of that when the candidates would question Wolf's RNC-scripted scenarios, asking "Who will start a nuclear world war, show of hands?" But not enough.

Bill C had the right idea when he challenged his Fox Noise interviewer, but the MSM closed ranks against such disrespect for their right to make everyone but them look foolish. The rest of the Democrats need to look to Bill as an example, and do that more often. Edwards didn't do it when "PeopleSay" Katie tried to make him look bad for continuing to work when his wife was sick (when Katie had done the same thing when her husband was dying of cancer).

Candidates need to challenge the media idiots and their "conventional stupidity," and the binary choices they are given. There is starting to be some of this, but there needs to be more.

We can't let the media pick our next president. They did it the last two elections, and look what that got us.

Posted by daCascadian, Jun 04 2007, 1:21PM - Link

David N >"...Candidates need to challenge the media idiots and their "conventional stupidity," and the binary choices they are given..."

There are no reasonable solutions to our situation that are binary. None.

Time for the candidates to show some leadership & take charge of the dialog. For them to stop allowing themselves to be pushed around by kneepad babbling bobbing heads.

Backbone, get some !

"...Open-mindedness is not a virtue of people who don’t believe anything. It is a virtue of people who know that their beliefs are not absolutely true….” - Reinhold Niebuhr

Posted by oppositionradio, Jun 04 2007, 1:27PM - Link

Despite his sometimes conveniently shaky memory Richardson is still looking like the best and most electable candidate on the stage? can anyone make an argument otherwise?

Posted by karenk, Jun 04 2007, 2:59PM - Link

This "Don't Ask Don't Tell" Policy is completely RIDICULOUS! It's discrimination-unfortunately gays are the only group that it's still considered acceptable to discriminate against. It has to stop!! Recently 50+ Arabic translators were discharged from the military for being gay. Unbelievable! Decisions like this make me think we are going to lose this "war" on terror. We don't have eough translators to begin with to translate all the chatter-this was the problem before 9/11/01-they were talking it up but we never translated it in time. If the average American knew about this move I'm quite sure that most people would agree that these translators need to be reinstated-hey we got them to reverse on the Dubai ports deal-need to spread the word-I'm sure others will be as outraged about it as I am and as outraged as those I tell this to.

Posted by Sandy, Jun 04 2007, 3:23PM - Link

oppositionradio says: "Despite his sometimes conveniently shaky memory Richardson is still looking like the best and most electable candidate on the stage? can anyone make an argument otherwise?"

Uh, I can.

Bill Clinton appointed him Energy Secretary, remember? Where was his great vision back then to create a policy....or a program like a Manhattan Project....to get us out of the ongoing bind we're in wrt our dependence on foreign oil? He had a chance then.

And, oh, btw, remember the two TOP SECRET computer drives
that went missing from a Los Alamos lab vault? The ones with the nuclear weapons data...including Russian?

And, the floppy disks with nuclear weapons data...found behind a Xerox machine? "Misplaced"???

And, Wen Ho Lee. Remember him? Illegally copying nuclear secrets onto his personal computer?

Do you need more?

Posted by downtown, Jun 04 2007, 3:31PM - Link

"Stopped for a quick couple of Sausage McMuffins with no egg yesterday at the drive thru. Opened the bag on the freeway, had two biscuits with canadian bacon and egg in the bag. Shoulda ordered in Spanish."

Now I have coffee spills on my keyboard. Thanks, POA

Posted by Sandy, Jun 04 2007, 5:19PM - Link

Yeah, I made my husband...in the next room...come in and read the screen with POA's post (above). LOL

Nobody does it better (as the song goes), POA!!! :-)

(Whenever I worry I may be getting too cynical...I read a POA post....) As the MasterCard ad goes, "Priceless!" :-)

Posted by Sandy, Jun 04 2007, 6:24PM - Link

Just fantasizing here. Wouldn't it have been something to have had one...even ONE...of the candidates make note of:

the 40th anniversary of the 1967 war and Israel's military occupation of Palestinian territory....?

After four decades.....FOUR DECADES....talk about resuming peace talks between Israel and Palestine?

Oh, that's right. The current talk, instead, has focused, instead, on IRAQ....that Iraq is another Korea. And, we'll be there permanently.

How? In what ways.....are these Democrats any different from Republicans when it comes to foreign policy initiatives?

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